The always cool
Marky Ramone took a few minutes out of his busy day to give
Toxic Teddie's inventor JFX an exclusive interview in his Brooklyn
home.
JFX: So,
Marky, the first question I have is ; you have been all over the
world and
here you are in good old Brooklyn, USA. What is it about Brooklyn? How come
you
haven’t gone all “Joe Hollywood”?
Marky: I’m just not into that. I’m not into the whole rockstar
thing. I’ve lived
here all my life. The Ramones are a New York band, all of my friends are here,
my
relatives and family. I don’t have to impress anybody, you know? I’m
not out to be
like some rich rockstar, showing off. I like my friends and the people in my
life
to be regular people.
JFX: So you don’t go for the Hollywood stuff?
Marky: I’m just not into the glitz. I’d rather
hang out with a guy I can build a
car with then hang out with a guy who’s going to go to a club and
show off and say
he’s some kind of rockstar or something. You know, I don’t
want to hear about his
money, cars, mansion, his girlfriends or the drugs he takes because I don’t
do that
shit. I find my friends who are not in the business a lot cooler.
JFX: That’s pretty cool, man. So what do you do on a normal day? Just
an ordinary
day, do you cook or anything like that?
Marky: No, no, I like to eat (laughs), it’s one of my only vices. And
I’ll list
songs for my new radio show on Serious Satellite Radio, my own show on
Faction
Channel 28, Tuesday nights at eight o’clock. Then I’ll play the
drums for about an
hour. Then maybe I’ll go out somewhere to eat at night with a friend
or my wife.
I’ve been married for 22 years. Then I don’t know, I might buy
an old car and fix
it up from scratch with a friend of mine out in the Bronx. He has a semi
shop with
a lift in it there and we like to tear cars apart and rebuild them.
JFX: You do body work and all that stuff?
Marky: Yeah, everything. Everything and anything. So that’s what I enjoy
doing,
things like that. When I’m not doing music I like to work on cars and
do you know,
normal things.
JFX: Could you tell me about you radio show? How
did it come
to be? How did you become a DJ, what gave you the idea and initiative?
Marky: Tony Hawk, a famous skateboarder asked me to come to his
show to do an
interview with him.
JFX: He has a show in New York?
Marky: He has a show on Sirius Radio too. He heard me on the
Howard Stern Show a
few times and he said “ya know, you can really talk”, well yeah
of course I can
talk. So he had me on his show, he’s a great guy. They liked me on his
show and
they asked me if maybe I could possibly put a show together.
I asked of what?
(laughs). You know, I play the drums, I do the Ramones productions
and stuff like
that. Also I’m writing my book, so I had to ask myself if I had time
to so this and
think it over very seriously because it takes a lot of commitment.
So I said yes. I
wouldn’t have said yes if I couldn’t do it. You’ve
got to pick out a play list each
week. You’ve got to know when your breaks are going to be.
You’ve
got to check
emails and voicemails and then you have to go live. Eventually
I can tape. Say I
want to do some shows in LA or South America or Japan for two
or three weeks, I can
tape the shows and play them on the radio station.
JFX: And then you go out on tour.
Marky: Yeah and then I come back and I do the
radio shows live again. As long as I do more
live shows than taped shows, I'm happy. The first four I just did,
and this is October 26th,
so the show is brand new. I’ve done four shows and the response
has been overwhelming.
It’s hard to get to all of the voicemails at the radio station because
there’s just
so many and when you get there you have to be pumped up
to go on. So what they’re
going to do is break the voicemails and the emails down
so they can send them back to me here to make things a
lot easier. I play lots of punk rock. I believe that there were
a
lot of bands coming up that deserved to be played and they
weren’t. Guys
who worked
hard, spent all their money recording and then they got
shafted.
JFX: Any in particular that were your favorite?
Marky: Well, you know when the Ramones came out we didn’t even get played.
Now
we’re played in stadiums, I Wanna Be Sedated, Blitzkrieg Bop, you know
, all that
stuff. Then there’s bands like The Heartbreakers, my friends who I still
miss. The
Dolls with David Johansen, who deserved more credit
and should have been played more
when they came out. Just bands that I feel deserve
to be heard, whether it’s
on
cable radio like Sirius, or anywhere really. There’s just
so much crap out there
now it’s all just a copy of a copy of a copy. There’s
really no substance anymore.
.When you look at bands like the Dolls or the Ramones, The Clash
or The Pistols, there’s no one like them. They’re the
real deal. Green Day’s great, Rancid’s
great, so you’ve got the newer punk
bands holding up the mantle, which is good.
JFX: Do you listen to Social Distortion?
Marky: Yeah, they’re great too. I played them last night. You know, bands
like X
from California, Bad Religion, The Germs, Fear,
Blondie, Talking Heads. There’s
a
lot of things people did on their own too. So that’s what I’m going
to be
dedicating my two hour show to.
JFX: Awesome, I’m
going to have to get Sirius Radio.
Marky: That’s the way to go. I mean once you get it, that’s it
because you don’t
want to hear commercials for five to eight minutes
anymore and you pick your own
songs. I have a pretty good idea of the punk
rock scene, I’ve been in
it since ‘74
when it started in New York at CBGBs. So I
kind of have a pretty good touch on it.
JFX: After the huge success of the Ramones
Raw do you plan on doing a sequel or a
special edition with some of the excluded
material such as the Jerry Lewis telethon
performance for example?
Marky: I could do another Raw , I have enough
material, but will it be as good as the first one,
because that’s the cream of the crop. Some things, like the telethon,
couldn’t be
used for commercial use. But I think the
show from Italy was great. I think out
of
the three hours of footage, visually it’s a five hour DVD if you put
it all together
with the commentary from me and Johnny
Ramone talking over it. I think there’s
so
much stuff in there that it’s really enough, that’s it. Plus the
End Of The Century
was a little depressing. It was a documentary
more from the directors point of view
of what he thought and what he gathered.
The Ramones were fun, I really enjoyed
being a part of it and sure, there were
a lot of crazy bad times but that’s
life.
Life hits you with a lot of curves so you
have your problems. You deal with them.
I had to leave the band or, well, get thrown
out for three and a half years because
I was drinking too much. Dee Dee was doing
too much dope and drinking, Joey was doing
too much coke and drinking too much. A lot of that shit effects
you.
At the end I straightened out, I came back
a second time to the Ramones. But
that’s what End of the Century was about, the darker side.
Raw was the lighter,
funnier side. We tried to throw a lot of
funny stuff in there.
JFX: You guys looked like you were having
a lot of fun.
Marky: We were, most times, like anything
else ; I know a lot of guys, even
construction workers who don’t get along and some do. I know cops who
don’t get
along with each other but some do.
JFX: When you’re with someone twenty
four hours a day you might get a little
tired of them.
Marky: You know what that’s called? Office politics! But when we played
that’s
what was most important and we
left all the bullshit off the stage.
JFX: I’ve seen you guys about fifteen times and it was awesome every
time.
Marky: You saw us with Dee Dee?
JFX: I saw you with Dee Dee too.
I think the first show I saw
you guys
was 1987
or
1988.
Marky: Yeah, and Dee Dee left
in ‘89 when he was forming that Dee Dee
King thing.
There are some good songs
on that album.
JFX: Are there? I never heard
it.
Marky: Yeah, there are.
We should have used some
of
those songs
for the Ramones
albums. But he contributed
out of the band while
he was a writer
so
there
was still
an element of Dee Dee
in the band even when
he was
out of
the group.
So that
was
good.
JFX: Now I know you have
your own band and you
do touring
and stuff
but I
was
wondering if you ever
considered putting
something together
like you did with
Dee
Dee with the Remains,
maybe with CJ and someone
else
from the
Ramones camp
like
Daniel Ray or something
just as a thought to
put some
Ramones songs
out there?
Marky: CJ has kids,
I don’t think he can tour. He’s a family man
now, which is
cool. Daniel is a
producer, he’s not really a touring kind of guy. I
have a band
with three guys that
love to tour, love
to play and
they’re able to.
We do Ramones
songs. I get emails
from 16 and 17 years
old kids
asking
me to
come
out and do
the
Ramones songs. When
the band retired
in ‘96 it wasn’t what I wanted
to do. I
wanted to do my own
stuff but then I
realized that
coming
from the
Ramones, that’s a
pretty heavy menu.
The kids just really
wanted
to hear
the Ramones
songs, I
understand that.
I mean, how far can
a
drummer
really go
doing original
material.
A lead singer or
guitar player yeah,
that’s different, but I don’t
sing, I play
drums. So I figured
what am I known for
best,
what do the
kids
want
to hear?
Me,
playing Ramones songs
and being one of
the Ramones.
So I got
a band together
with
some guys, they’re not rock star types, they’re not into the ego
shit. They’re from
Cleveland, Ohio, near
the Rock and Roll
Hall of
Fame. They
were always
fans
of the
Ramones, very dedicated.
We’re going to play in LA on the 29th with Suicidal
Tendencies, Fear
and the new Germs.
They
asked us
to come
out there
as East Coast
representation. So
we’re going to start playing around and the beauty
of it is
that it’s when I want to not because I have to. That’s the difference,
I don’t
have to tour anymore
but when I want to
tour, when
I get
the bug,
the
itch, I will.
JFX: When you can’t sit still?
Marky: When you
sit still you
die. That’s the truth. I went on vacation
at this
place to get
away but then
I had
nothing to do.
I
was getting
antsy
so I said
what
the fuck am I
doing here? I
figured
just let me
go home.
JFX: I’m like that too. After three days I’m done, I want to go
home. So I see
looking around
your place
that you’re a collector, you love collecting.
You’ve got
old sci-fi
stuff here.
Marky: Yeah,
I’ve got 300 robots, these are just some of them. The other
ones I
have are
in storage
and
downstairs.
Here’s the Hall of Fame statue, the
MTV award
and here’s the original Robby the Robot from 1954. And
these are the replicas, they’re
very collectible
too. Oh,
and get a
view
of that!,
that’s the outside
of Markys’
window.
JFX: That’s the Brooklyn Bridge and the Manhattan Bridge, very nice.
I can see why
you still
like living
here.
So what
made you
like
the Toxic
Teddies
enough
to want
them as
Ramone
figures,
did you
think
they
were funny?
Marky: Well
they look
like
a hand made
them,
not just
a machine.
It was
thought
out well
and I
like
it,
they’re cute, kids will love them. When I was
about nine or
ten,
the Beatles
came
out
and
if I
had seen
this
at that
age in
Beatle
form
I would
have
definitely
bought
them.
I find
I
like
the background
with
the Marshal
amps,
the logo
and the
hall
of fame
stuff,
that’s pretty cool.
JFX: Did
you think
that
the
series of the
Toxic
Teddies
were
in
the
spirit of the
Ramones?
Marky: Yeah,
definitely,
and
these
look
very
similar,
there’s definitely
something
there.
JFX:
Do you
think the
guys would
have gotten
a kick
out of
them, Joey,
Dee Dee
and
Johnny?
Marky: I think
Johnny, Joey
and Dee
Dee would
have had
them on
their shelves.
Unfortunately
they aren’t around to see this. But knowing them for the
thirty years
that
I knew
them, I
know they
would have
loved it.
It’s unfortunate that
all this
stuff
is coming
out now.
There’s not a day that goes by that I don’t
think about
them.
Whether it’s a song that comes on or I see a picture, there’s
always
something.
But Tommy
and I
are grateful
that all
of this
stuff is
happening and
we’re going to just keep at it. We have Ramones leather jackets coming
out soon.
They’re beautiful, I saw one yesterday. Nice leather, great quality.
JFX: During your
career with
the Ramones,
aside from
being inducted
into the
Rock
and
Roll Hall
of Fame,
was there
any particular
highlight that
sticks out
where you
could
say “wow, we’ve made it”?
Marky: (Laughs) Yeah,
when we
got out
of CBGBs
and started
touring the
world.
CBGBs
is a
great place
to play
when you’re starting out but if you only
stay in
clubs
like that
you’re going to die. You’ve got to move onto bigger
places to get
to
more people.
Once we
realized that
people were
starting to
like us,
we got
a
pretty
big following.
The fans
were everything
to me,
when they
came to
our shows,
that’s when I knew we had arrived.
JFX: Speaking of
fans, how
do the
fans react
to you
when they
see you
on the
street?
Marky: They say
: “Hey Marky, how ya doing, let me take a photo with
you”. I don’t
really
even like
to use
the word
fan, I
prefer friend
of the
Ramones. But
if he
wants
to get
an autograph
or a
photo of
course, why
not? You
take out
a pen
and
sign,
what’s the big fucking deal? You’ve got these guys that don’t
want to do it
too.
One time
this guy,
I’m not going to name names, but the guy was
a rock star
and
a man
and his
baby approached
him and
the guy
said, "fuck
you and
your baby".
(Laughs)
I would
have hit
the guy
in the
mouth, I
don’t give a fuck who
he was. But
I
think it’s wrong to come off like you think you’re better than
anyone else.
JFX I heard
there’s going to be a bio like one of those VH1 movies,
I don’t
know if it’s
actually
VH1, but
it’s about the story of the Ramones played with actors.
Marky: Well, there was
interest from a producer in Hollywood who’s well
known and I
think
he’s
going to wait
for my book
to come out.
That way he
can pool everything
together
, Montys
book, Jim
Bessmans book,
my book
and I
guess my
book will
be the
most
comprehensive
because
I was
in the
band. Dee
Dee's books
are good,
but they’re
kind
of fantasy.
Because he’s a great writer, there’s
a definite
element of
fantasy
there.
Where as
my book
is going
to be
real and
to the
point and
that’s
that.
JFX: How long
have you
been working
on the
book now?
Marky: Two years.
It’s
going to be
thick. All
about from
the beginning
to now.
So
the guy
is in
California
and
he knows
everything
about
the Ramones
but maybe
lacking
about
20%.
That’s
why he has
to talk to
me and Tommy.
Tommy to talk
about
the
beginning
and
me to
talk about ‘78
on. But knowing
the producer
it should
definitely
be a
great movie.
JFX: Very good,
I’m really looking forward to that. I don’t
want to take
up any
more
of your
time
so
thank
you
very
much
Marky.
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